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Comet 41P Encounters M108 and the Owl Nebula

Comet 41P, M108 & The Owl Nebula. 92×60 sec @ ISO 800, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3.

It is not uncommon for comets to pass near famous Messier objects or NGC catalog objects and put on a good show.   This comet encounter is special in that there are two famous objects that the comet is having a conjunction with.   One is a relatively bright galaxy called M108.   The other is the Owl Nebula, one of the better planetary nebulae in the skies.

I shot this with the Canon T3 and Televue TV-85 combo.   I used one minute sub-images at ISO 800 and that was about max for the skies I was under.   I’m sure people with darker skies got better results.   However, I think being able to pull anything out of the skies at this location is great.  LP was bad and I had terrible gradients to deal with in post-processing, but I managed.   🙂

I also did a quick star-streaks version that seems to show a longer tail.  Not sure, since there were some dust doughnuts left over from an apparently bad batch of flats I used and I had to clone them out.  These aberrations were in the tail area, so it could be some remnant of that.

Check it out:

Comet 41P on March 22, 2017, 01:06 UT. 92×60 sec @ ISO 800, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3. Star-Streaks version.

Comet 41P on Mar 21, 2017

Comet 41P on Mar 21, 2017, 03:06 UT. 60×20 sec, RT Sony IMX224, Televue TV-85 at F/5.6.

One thing I’ve found out with using electronically assisted methods to view dim objects in bad LP conditions is this:   Live stacking generally improves things, but only at first.  If you want something as dim as Comet 41P to show any more than just the inner coma, you have to stack with lots more subs using more advanced stacking methods than just average and additive.

So, I shot 103 subs-images, along with 30 darks and about 30 bias images for this object.   I brought them into IRIS and used only the first 60 because that is all I could get to align.   The usual methods of aligning based on the drift per hour in x and y coordinates doesn’t work if the sub-images are not timestamped.      This is another deficiency in the low-end capture and stacking program, RisingSky (ToupSky.)  Not sure if SharpCap has the same issues.

Comet 41P on Mar 21, 2017, 03:06 UT. StarFreeze version.

Anyway, at least I was able to obtain a basic image and considering the conditions, it is not too bad.  Compare this to my previous effort with the Aptina AR0130 sensor.   This would probably work lots better at a dark sky site.   But, I don’t know if I would waste time on shooting with the RT224 when I could use the Canon T3, which is more sensitive when it comes to comets and captures a much larger field of view.

 

Comet 41p with a Toupcam

Comet 41P on Mar 16, 2017 03:17 UT. 141×8 sec, Toupcam AR0130C, TV-85 at F/7.

I was fooling around with the Toupcam from a red/white LP zone and trying to get Comet 41P to show up.   I ended up using SharpCap and doing live stacking with between 10 to 23 x 8 sec exposures for each stack.  Then, I combined those stacks in IRIS and aligned them on the comet.  It came out to be a total of 18 minutes worth of exposure, albeit in a heavy LP zone.   So, I got it to show up, but the color and faint details of the tail and coma got lost in the noise.

Comet Johnson, Feb 26, 2017

Comet Johnson, Feb 26, 2017, 08:35 UT. 18×180 sec @ ISO 3200, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD. Star Freeze version.
Comet Johnson, Feb 26, 2017, 08:35 UT. 18×180 sec @ ISO 3200, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD. Star Streaks version.

I was able to catch 4 comets on the night of Feb 25/26th, 2017.  Comet Johnson was the last one of the night and I got some good data on it this time.

I have processed the data like usual and included both a star freeze and star streaks version.    I cropped these close at 100% full size.

The full frame is below:

Comet Johnson, Feb 26, 2017, 08:35 UT. 18×180 sec @ ISO 3200, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD. Star Freeze full frame version.

 

Update Feb 27, 2017:
I actually made a mistake on processing these and the exposure time involved.   There are only two (2) sub-images that were shot for 3 minutes at ISO 3200 (the first two) and the remaining sixteen were all 5 minute subs at ISO 1600.   Doh!  😮

Update Feb 28, 2017:
I had processed them with the 180 sec, ISO 3200 darks and offsets and it still came out.   I wrongly stated to myself (and this blog) that I would not reprocess them with the right calibration data, since it looked good enough.  However, I’m glad I changed my mind:

Comet Johnson, Feb 26, 2017, 05:00 UT. 16×300 sec @ ISO 1600, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3.

This was much cleaner in the reprocess.  I have two layers here.  One is the comet and one is the star background.  I didn’t have to slice and dice 10 different processing attempts and put together an image.  I only used the minimum needed.   Nothing from the first processing job was used.

Comet 45P on Feb 26, 2017

Comet 45P, Feb 26, 2017, 07:11 UT. 24×180 sec @ ISO 3200, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD.

Because of weather, I missed out on imaging Comet 45P when it was near a famous galaxy pair recently.    I finally got to image it from a relatively dark sky location on Feb 26, 2017.   There were no “famous” galaxies in the vicinity this night, but there were sure lots of faint fuzzies in the image to make it interesting.

The star freeze version above came out OK.  Not too bad.  I also did a star-streaks version and I’ve included that below.

Comet 45P on Feb 26, 2017, 07:11 UT. Star-streaks version.

Keen observers will note that there is an asteroid in the tail of Comet 45P.   It can be seen in both versions.   I’m pretty sure that is 5081 Sanguin (1976 WC1).

Comet 41P, Feb 26, 2017, 05:00 UT

Comet 41P, Feb 26, 2017, 05:00 UT. 34×180 sec @ ISO 3200, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD. Star-Streaks close crop version.
Comet 41P, Feb 26, 2017, 05:00 UT. 34×180 sec @ ISO 3200, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD. StarFreeze version.
Comet 41P, Feb 26, 2017, 05:00 UT. 34×180 sec @ ISO 3200, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD. Star-Streaks version.

At about 11:00 PM CST on Saturday night, Feb 25th, I decided that I’d hit Comet 41P again.   This time with a longer session, more exposure and a higher ISO.    These images are the results of that endeavor.

Encke – Almost Gone

Comet Encke on Feb 26, 2017, 01:22 UT. 1×300 sec @ ISO 1600 and 1×300 sec @ ISO 800.

I managed to get off 2 shots on Encke before it sank too low to shoot.  One shot was 5 minutes @ ISO 1600 and the other was 5 minutes @ ISO 800.   I added the two together and it came out like you see it above.   Not great, but you can see where it stands.

Comet 41P on Feb 23, 2017

Comet 41P on Feb 23, 2017, 03:34 UT. 3×360 and 24×120 sec @ ISO 1600, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD. Star Freeze version.
Comet 41P on Feb 23, 2017, 03:34 UT. 3×360 and 24×120 sec @ ISO 1600, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD. Star Streaks version (3×360 subs as a base, Comet only from 24×120 subs.)

A different comet is out and about now.  Periodic comet 41P is coming back around and is conveniently placed in Leo and so is up most of the night.    I shot it from a darker sky location and it turned out OK, I guess.   It was a little dimmer than I expected.

I was pressed for time this session, so I went with 2 minute ISO 1600 exposures to match the darks I had already taken for another object.   It really needed a little longer exposure and more ISO.    Next time, I’ll hit it with 3 minutes and ISO 3200, which I hope will be in two days after this was posted.

Comet 41P, Feb 23, 2017, 03:34 UT. Star Streaks version with just the 24×120 sec ISO 1600 sub-images.

They say this comet will get better during March, so I’ll probably be shooting it again soon.

Comet Encke, Feb 23, 2017, 01:22 UT

Comet Encke, Feb 23, 2017, 01:22 UT. 12×120 sec @ ISO 1600, TV-85 at F/5.6, Canon T3, Atlas EQ-G w/EQMOD.

This is probably my last Comet Encke shot for this go-around.  It is so close to the horizon at the end of astronomical twilight that it is hard to get any good data.  Only if the horizon is exceptionally clear from this point forward will I attempt to shoot it again.

It still shows a nice tail, despite being in the muck at the horizon.   The negative insert shows the tail the best, but it is also somewhat visible even in the positive image.

I had guiding issues for this shot, so I was not expecting much of an image from the data.  But, it still came out OK despite that.

Comet Encke on Feb 19, 2017, 01:02 UT

Comet Encke, Feb 19, 2017, 01:02 UT (Feb 18, 2017, 7:02 PM CST.)

I did it.  I drove out of the city to a new spot I found on a Light Pollution Map.   It was only 30 to 40 minutes away and very dark by today’s standards.  It is a dead-end Parish road with no houses for a few miles, which means I didn’t have to trespass on someone’s property.  I just stopped at the end of the asphalt and setup shop.  🙂

I was able to shoot with ISO 3200 even with Comet Encke close to the horizon.   It was dark enough to notice a little zodiacal light there, too.   With these kinds of conditions, I was able to pick up Encke’s tail.

The data was shot in three sets.  Two sets of 15×30 sec @ ISO 400 and 7×30 sec @ ISO 3200 while it was still twilight and finally a set of 37×60 sec @ ISO 3200 started just before twilight officially began.  About 48 minutes total integration.

The main image has been cropped, but the enhanced negative insert is more of the full field.  You can see that the tail actually goes out of the field of view.  Amazing!

Alternate version without the labels or negative insert. Dynamic stretch instead of Color stretch.

 

Two enhancements that show tail length.

Unfortunately, Comet Encke is all I got this evening.  While I was doing a better polar alignment and setting up to shoot the Horse Head, a huge fog bank rolled in quicker than I even noticed and it was thick.   Oh, well…   I took that as my cue and shot my calibration frames and left.

I also did a star freeze rendition and it came out ok.  It just doesn’t show the tail as well as any of the above images:

Comet Encke, Feb 19, 2017 – Star Freeze Version.